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A Talk Oppurtunity For Adp - Dr. Abdul Hameed Nayyar
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: A talk oppurtunity for ADP - Dr. Abdul Hameed Nayyar Reply with quote

Folks,

Mokshay Madiman, from AID Boston, forwarded me this email which talks about Dr A. H. Nayyar's USA/Canada tour this year. I think it will be great if we can get him to speak in Boston on behalf of ADP.

What do you guys think?


> DR. A. H. NAYYAR ON LECTURE TOUR OF USA & CANADA
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> Friends:
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> Dr. Abdul Hameed Nayyar, a prominent Pakistani physicist, peace
> activist, and promoter of good education will be in the United States
> from June through August 2005. I have persuaded him to spare some time
> for a few talks in the United States.
>
> Please let me know soon, if you can have him give a talk in your
> area, in exchange for a share of expenses for his talks-related
> travel, board and lodging.
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> Some of the topics he can talk on are as follows:
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> India-Pakistan Relations (Prospects of Peace Between India & Pakistan)
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> Education: Curriculum and textbooks
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> Madrassa education
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> Nuclear issues, globally and in South Asia>

> Dr. Nayyar recently retired after teaching at Quaid-i-Azam University,
> Islamabad, since 1973. He has held visiting appointments at the
> University of Manitoba, Canada, the International Centre for
> Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy, and at Princeton University, New
> Jersey, USA. He is currently a visiting research fellow at the
> Sustainable Development Policy Institute, Islamabad, where he conducts
> policy studies in the areas of education and energy.
>
> Over the last two years, he has led a methodical study into the
> distortion of history, emphasis on militarism, creation of ill will
> against minorities, and creation of a young jihadist class in
> Pakistan. This study is now being widely quoted and is available at
> www.sdpi.org under the title "subtle subversion".
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> He has written extensively in professional journals, magazines and
> newspapers on issues relating education, energy, and nuclear weapons,
> and peace. Some of his writings that were widely read include

> 1. India, Pakistan and the Bomb, cover story of the Scientific
> American, December 2001;
> 2. The Subtle Subversion: The State of Curriculum and Textbooks in
> Pakistan, an SDPI report, June 2003;
> 3. Madrassa Education: Frozen in Time, in Fifty Years of Pakistan,
> Ed. Pervez Hoodbhoy, Oxford University Press, 1997.
>
> He is also deeply involved in peace activism, and currently heads the
> Pakistan Peace Coalition. For his activism, ACHA gave him the 2004
> ACHA Star Award.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Pritam
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Tarim Wasim



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The education stuff is right up our alley. I won't be around in the summer, but if we can work out an economical arrangement (maybe cosponsor with PAGB or AID?), we should definitely do it.

-Tarim
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Justin Stone



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds very interesting. Off hand, one topic sounds particularly relevant to ADP's work:

2. The Subtle Subversion: The State of Curriculum and Textbooks in
> Pakistan, an SDPI report, June 2003;

I could not find the study at SDPI, so we should preview to get an idea of his thesis...

~Justin
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Mahjabeen Quadri
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SARID may be interested in cosponsoring it too. Janaki Blum (jblum@sarid.net) would be a good person to contact for that.
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some more info on this event.


Dear Omar:

I am glad to know of your interest in inviting Dr. Nayyar to speak on
"Curriculum and textbooks" and/or "Madressa education," on behalf of ADP in Boston. I am sure he would be glad to accept your invitation. provided you pay for his air travel fron New Jersey, and make appropriate arrangements for his board and lodging (which could be at some's residence) at your expense.

He is not asking for an honorarium. But it would be nice if you can give him some amount which he can use for his work in Pakistan, although it is not a requirement. He retired at the end of last year from his teaching job at the Quaid-e-Azam University.

He will be in USA for the month of August. the first and second weekend have already been reserved. Would third or the 4th weekend suit you?

Please let me know

Best wishes,
Pritam

Association for Communal Harmony in Asia (ACHA)
www.asiapeace.org & www.indiapakistanpeace.org
4410 Verda Lane NE, Keizer, OR 97303
503.393.6944
Executive Director: Pritam K. Rohila, Ph.D.
pritamr@open.org
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next Steps:

1) How about reserving the August 20th weekend for this talk ?

2) Great idea Mahjabeen, lets get SARID and PAGB/YAPP involved to reduce the cost of this event AND attract a larger audience.


If folks are ok with the items above then we can get into the details of Dr. Nayyar's travel arrangement and lodging.
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Danish Saleem



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is it going to cost us for the whole trip? Before we make the commitment we should check if said agencies are interested.
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. I will get in touch with Pakistani Association for Greater Boston (PAGB) and SARID to guage their interest and contribution level.

PAGB : http://www.pagb.org/

SARID : http://www.sarid.net/

The guy will basically be travelling from New Jersey to Boston. I was even thinking of perhaps two of us from Boston can drive down to NJ and bring him to Boston (Pick and drop). At most we will have to put him up in a hotel for a night, maybe two. He can also stay with me if he doesnt mind (I think thats whay Pritam had suggested in his reply that he can be a houseguest of one of us)


I just checked out prices on cheaptickets.com and here is the published fare

Ticket + hotel for Aug 19th - Aug 21st = ~$400

Ticket only (Aug 19th - Aug 21st) = $271
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Tarim Wasim



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: SARID reply Reply with quote

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Blum [mailto:jblum@sarid.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:33 PM
To: contact@DevelopPakistan.org
Subject: Re: Dr. Nayyars talk in August 2005


Dear AID & ADP,

SARID would like very much to co-sponsor the talk in August by Dr. AH Nayyar.
As we are a small organisation, we can donate only up to US$ 100 for this purpose.
Hope it will help.
Please let us know how else we can be useful.

Sincerely

Janaki Blum
Director, SARID
(South Asia Research Institute for Policy & Development)
675 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA
tel: 617 492 0764
fax: 617 492 6226
www.sarid.net
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bilal for leading this effort and getting in touch with PAGB and other organizations.

Just a FYI, Bilal is leading the the effort to arrange Dr. Hameed's talk in Boston on August 20th 2005. He will keep us posted with the detail
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Talk with Dr. Nayyar - update Reply with quote

I spoke with Dr. Nayyar and he is willing to talk on behalf of ADP on the weekend of August 20/21. He is currently at Princeton university so getting him to Boston will not be a big cost or burden. We will have to provide his travel and room expenses.

After introducing ADP and its mission to Dr. Nayyar, he agreed to talk about a topic relevant to ADP and development in Pakistan. He wants to talk about the current state of education in Pakistan (curriculum and text used in schools and madrassahs). He recently published a report with 'Sustainable Development Policy Institute' regarding this topic. Check it out at

http://www.sdpi.org/research_Programme/research_programme.htm

What I need to know from you guys in Boston, and need to know quick, is whether to host this talk on Saturday (Aug 10) or Sunday (Aug 21) since we will have him reserve his tickets and room. SARID agreed to pitch in $100 for this event.

By Air:
Our initial estimate was around $350 - $400 for air ticket AND room for one night in Boston. Taking SARID's contribution out, this leaves us with $250-$300 to arrange for.

By Bus:
This option will cost us a lot less (~ $150) including room but require him to catch a 5+ hour bus both days and would make the schedule very tight. (Leaving boston around 3:30 pm would get him to NY at 9:30pm)

If I dont hear otherwise, I will go ahead and schedule the talk for Sunday August 21st.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! The idea is for ADP to host a lecture/discussion? I assume we won't be charging anything for attendance. Do we have a venue? This sounds great, and $300 is a very reasonable cost for raising awareness and the ADP profile... I don't think we need to torture him on a bus for so long. Smile

Have you thought about how we will promote the event? How we can use the opportunity to pitch ADP?

I don't have a strong feeling about which is a better day for a lecture. Anyone?

~Justin
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Adnan Khalid



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a strong preference for one day v.s the other.

About the travel arrangements, 5 hours is the amount of time it takes to drive from Princeton to Boston. Greyhound bus rides take at least 8 hours. So I agree with Justin that we should not make him take a bus to come here.

-adnan
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Omar Biabani



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll speak with Dr Nayyar tomorrow and finalize the plans for Sunday at 1pm for a 2 hour talk. He had suggested 45 to 60 min talk sessoin followed by question answers.

I will ask him to fly in on Saturday and fly out Sunday evening. I suggest that we all pitch in to cover the cost of this event , keeping ADP's funds separate. What do you guys think ?

Also, if Dr Nayyar is coming on Saturday, we can take him out for dinner OR get together at someones place to have an introduction and informal discussion. What do you guys think?

Once confirmed, we need to publicize this event to attract interested audience. Bilal, would you like to take charge of marketting the event ?

Lastly , can we record this event on video and post it on our website. I feel we should start making use of video technology in order to reach out to a broader audience via our website. We can decide to upload a small segment of the talk and then encourage them to check it out on our website. Who wants to look into making this happen?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are we making arrangements for him to stay?

Omar, which Sunday are you proposing to him? BTW, August 10 is not a Saturday. I'm assuming you meant August 20th.

I think having the dinner at someone's place is a better idea than taking him out as it will facilitate a more relaxed atmosphere and offer a better opportunity to have an informal discussion. We can have a pot luck kind of a thing. If Im here that weekend then we can do it at my place. Just a heads up that I may be in New York that weekend.

It is a good idea to encourage ADP members to sponsor this event so that we don't have to dig into ADP's existing funds but I see no issue with doing that either since we have conciously decided that if successful this event will be beneficial to ADP and alsp help further its goals.

Natasha (or anyone else who has a video camera) can you get your video camera to records this event? I can then convert parts of the video to post on the website along with pictures and a power point presentation if the speaker shows one.

-adnan
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